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	<title>Comments on: Google China SysAdmin Community Launch</title>
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		<title>By: China an inefficient truth &#8211; Utility Computing dot China</title>
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		<dc:creator>China an inefficient truth &#8211; Utility Computing dot China</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Politics aside, wastage for the sake of wastage though is not very good. And I have a rather poignant insider&#8217;s look at this issue that also manages (in my mind at least) to cross paths with this issue about China&#8217;s talent gap, or indeed this also about the talent gap. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Politics aside, wastage for the sake of wastage though is not very good. And I have a rather poignant insider&#8217;s look at this issue that also manages (in my mind at least) to cross paths with this issue about China&#8217;s talent gap, or indeed this also about the talent gap. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 12:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please do.  If there is anything I can do, to make the hiring process a little less painful and let business focus on information flow and not bloody cables and protocols and pieces of metal in racks!

:-\</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please do.  If there is anything I can do, to make the hiring process a little less painful and let business focus on information flow and not bloody cables and protocols and pieces of metal in racks!</p>
<p>:-\</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 12:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right! So that&#039;s where the sysadmin group fits in: defining what is the job about, what people should know and educate students, companies and universities about it. There will be another meeting this month and I will probably post it on the BLUG front page to let more (interested) people know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right! So that&#8217;s where the sysadmin group fits in: defining what is the job about, what people should know and educate students, companies and universities about it. There will be another meeting this month and I will probably post it on the BLUG front page to let more (interested) people know.</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 11:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My hiring philosophy is this:

- Throw out all foreign grads.  They often went to shite uni&#039;s and never bothered to learn any western culture and assume that a degree from outside of China is a gold pass.

- Throw out all applicants that have their CISCO or MCSE certificates attached as some sort of badge of honour with the expectation that this too, is a gold pass

- Give a hard written and practical test to anyone that says they have learned Linux from one of the local &quot;Linux Schools&quot;  :-S

- Then hunt in vain for someone that knows what UML is and then knows what technology is all about and the difference between, data, information and knowledge and what role IT has in business

As you can guess - it is hard to get good graduates in China.  :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My hiring philosophy is this:</p>
<p>- Throw out all foreign grads.  They often went to shite uni&#8217;s and never bothered to learn any western culture and assume that a degree from outside of China is a gold pass.</p>
<p>- Throw out all applicants that have their CISCO or MCSE certificates attached as some sort of badge of honour with the expectation that this too, is a gold pass</p>
<p>- Give a hard written and practical test to anyone that says they have learned Linux from one of the local &#8220;Linux Schools&#8221;  :-S</p>
<p>- Then hunt in vain for someone that knows what UML is and then knows what technology is all about and the difference between, data, information and knowledge and what role IT has in business</p>
<p>As you can guess &#8211; it is hard to get good graduates in China.  <img src='http://www.utilitycomputing.com.cn/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bjorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bjorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 11:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;ve been trying to hire sysadms in China for 2 years, but so far only found one qualified person.  They want to promote the Unix Sysadm profession, perhaps by establishing SAGE China.  There&#039;s a huge mismatch between what jobs people think are out there and what&#039;s really out there, thanks to marketing by M$ and the like; it&#039;s time to fight back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;ve been trying to hire sysadms in China for 2 years, but so far only found one qualified person.  They want to promote the Unix Sysadm profession, perhaps by establishing SAGE China.  There&#8217;s a huge mismatch between what jobs people think are out there and what&#8217;s really out there, thanks to marketing by M$ and the like; it&#8217;s time to fight back.</p>
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